Comments on: Cleveland Browns: QB Score: Week 13 http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/ Musings from a Cleveland sports fan Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:03:39 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: irreverend fox http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11450 irreverend fox Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:32:30 +0000 http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11450 Kosar was on Munch last week and must have been reading the comments here before going on the show cause he simply repeated what I have been saying all along...which is...how much better of a QB do we think Quinn or anybody else is going to get? Does anybody think DA has even peeked yet? I don't. So if he is not "the future" then exactly what do we expect for "the future"? The only QB's better than DA will be Manning, Marino, Favre and Elway caliber. No matter how stupid those 2 INTS looked...at the end of the game...I was not one bit worried, I knew without a doubt we would drive that field and score a TD...and we did...just a bad call kept it from counting. If DA is not “the future” and the real future is BETTER than DA…then watch out New England…Cleveland is going to be the dynasty of all dynasties real soon… Kosar was on Munch last week and must have been reading the comments here before going on the show cause he simply repeated what I have been saying all along…which is…how much better of a QB do we think Quinn or anybody else is going to get? Does anybody think DA has even peeked yet? I don’t. So if he is not “the future” then exactly what do we expect for “the future”? The only QB’s better than DA will be Manning, Marino, Favre and Elway caliber.

No matter how stupid those 2 INTS looked…at the end of the game…I was not one bit worried, I knew without a doubt we would drive that field and score a TD…and we did…just a bad call kept it from counting.

If DA is not “the future” and the real future is BETTER than DA…then watch out New England…Cleveland is going to be the dynasty of all dynasties real soon…

]]> By: Dawg Pound http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11446 Dawg Pound Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:32:13 +0000 http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11446 One thing that we need to understand as fans is that no matter who the QB is, he's not going to be perfect. Not stating that DA's our guy for the future or anything, but just go easy on him for a couple bad games... One thing that we need to understand as fans is that no matter who the QB is, he’s not going to be perfect. Not stating that DA’s our guy for the future or anything, but just go easy on him for a couple bad games…

]]> By: RockKing http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11429 RockKing Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:42:43 +0000 http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11429 That's an excellent point about Grossman. Despite all his early turnovers, I never thought the Browns were out of that game, because I had confidence DA could make some plays to get them back in it. No way would Bears fans feel the same about Grossman. Nor would probably 20 of the 32 teams with their QBs. The good thing about accuracy issues being a result of poor decisions is that it's much easier to correct poor decision making than it is to correct poor accuracy. While he still makes some poor throws to open receivers as well, he's definitely shown that on throws in which he can unleash his arm, he can drill the ball into tight areas. It's his "touch" throws that seem to give him the most trouble. That’s an excellent point about Grossman. Despite all his early turnovers, I never thought the Browns were out of that game, because I had confidence DA could make some plays to get them back in it. No way would Bears fans feel the same about Grossman. Nor would probably 20 of the 32 teams with their QBs.

The good thing about accuracy issues being a result of poor decisions is that it’s much easier to correct poor decision making than it is to correct poor accuracy. While he still makes some poor throws to open receivers as well, he’s definitely shown that on throws in which he can unleash his arm, he can drill the ball into tight areas. It’s his “touch” throws that seem to give him the most trouble.

]]> By: Joe B http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11421 Joe B Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:08:50 +0000 http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11421 While we're talking about bad decisions, let's talk about a defender who decides to kick the ball after the play is over. Some penalties are just plain bad decisions by a player. This one apparently changed the outcome of the game. Just about every penalty that occurs after a play is over is due to a bad decision by a player and is inexcusable. How hard is it to just jog back to the huddle, or get up and jog off the field? While we’re talking about bad decisions, let’s talk about a defender who decides to kick the ball after the play is over. Some penalties are just plain bad decisions by a player. This one apparently changed the outcome of the game.

Just about every penalty that occurs after a play is over is due to a bad decision by a player and is inexcusable. How hard is it to just jog back to the huddle, or get up and jog off the field?

]]> By: disappointmentzone http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11418 disappointmentzone Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:33:20 +0000 http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11418 I too was pretty surprised that his QB Score was around average. The three turnovers really hurt him. Without them his score would have been above 4, which is that borderline elite area. Without the turnovers I think the Browns blow the Cardinals out of the water. DA definitely cost the team the game, but it wasn't a Rex Grossman-type performance, where the QB costs his team the game and gives them no chance to win. DA give the Browns a chance to win. Some of DA's accuracy issues stem from making really bad decisions. The second INT was a bad pass, but it was an even worse decision. Throwing a seam route into triple coverage is about as hard of a throw as there is. You have to get it over the linebacker but not float it so that the safety can make it over to break up the pass, all the while dealing with a corner back. I'm not sure any quarterback routinely completes that pass, but routinely good quarterbacks usually don't attempt that pass. Anderson needs to learn to walk that line between gunslinger and game manager. I too was pretty surprised that his QB Score was around average. The three turnovers really hurt him. Without them his score would have been above 4, which is that borderline elite area. Without the turnovers I think the Browns blow the Cardinals out of the water. DA definitely cost the team the game, but it wasn’t a Rex Grossman-type performance, where the QB costs his team the game and gives them no chance to win. DA give the Browns a chance to win.

Some of DA’s accuracy issues stem from making really bad decisions. The second INT was a bad pass, but it was an even worse decision. Throwing a seam route into triple coverage is about as hard of a throw as there is. You have to get it over the linebacker but not float it so that the safety can make it over to break up the pass, all the while dealing with a corner back. I’m not sure any quarterback routinely completes that pass, but routinely good quarterbacks usually don’t attempt that pass. Anderson needs to learn to walk that line between gunslinger and game manager.

]]> By: RockKing http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11416 RockKing Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:21:05 +0000 http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/12/03/cleveland-browns-qb-score-week-13/#comment-11416 After a game like that, I felt like DA's QB Score would be well below average. It felt like he killed us in that game. But, at the end of the day, he did some things really well, including 2 TD passes in the 2nd half and should have had a 3rd. He racked up a lot of yards on Braylon's TD as well as a couple other nice passes to Braylon. I'm still glass half full on DA, I think that with weapons (which Cleveland clearly has), he is a very successful QB. I'm not sure with his accuracy issues he would be this good everywehere, but who knows. After a game like that, I felt like DA’s QB Score would be well below average. It felt like he killed us in that game. But, at the end of the day, he did some things really well, including 2 TD passes in the 2nd half and should have had a 3rd. He racked up a lot of yards on Braylon’s TD as well as a couple other nice passes to Braylon.

I’m still glass half full on DA, I think that with weapons (which Cleveland clearly has), he is a very successful QB. I’m not sure with his accuracy issues he would be this good everywehere, but who knows.

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