Comments on: Cleveland Browns: QB Score: Week 10

By: disappointmentzone

disappointmentzone — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:25:13 +0000

I just wrote a post that’ll go up Tuesday. In it I argue that if the Browns had just a league-average defense they would likely be 7-2. I’d still have them ranked behind NE and Indy, but I’d put them even with Pittsburgh, maybe even a little better (Pitt’s offense isn’t quite as good but their defense is outstanding).

With an average defense the Browns are in the top 5 in the NFL. As it is they have the worst defense in the league and so are probably somewhere around 10th best in the NFL.

By: irreverend fox

irreverend fox — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:14:27 +0000

people act like the offense didn’t show up…it scored 3 TD’s…3 TD’s…3 TD’s…not 3 FG’s…3 TD’s…and the special teams where unreal…how can there be any doubt as to what the problem is?

By: irreverend fox

irreverend fox — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:11:35 +0000

you can not expect perfection from your QB every week…for crying out loud…the DZ is right…he doesn’t even have a full season under his belt and he walked right to the gates of hell and fought hard…there is no doubt that he didn’t have it going in the second half…that is not the point…he certainly had the team in a great position to win at the end of the half…he didn’t throw INT’s or fumble the ball…he didn’t “loose the game” for us…the defense straight up lost this game…period. you can not ever expect your offense to just score at will every week…you can’t expect a shoot out which you always win…you’ve got to play defense…if this defense was just average the Browns would be the second best team in the AFC (especially if you don’t hold the first game against them…record wise it does of course…but nobody views that team with this team)…

By: disappointmentzone

disappointmentzone — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:16:10 +0000

What I like about QB Score is that it does not factor TD passes into the rating. Where a pass happens, what happens after a pass — these things are immaterial and shouldn’t factor into how a QB is rated.

Anderson didn’t play well. There’s no doubting that. Just look at his QB Score per play. But he didn’t play well on the road against an elite defense in sloppy conditions. He had a better than average first half (I think his QB Score per play was about 2.5 at halftime, a small tick above average) and a pretty terrible second half (until the last drive).

It’s like going 1-5 with a double against Johan Santana. It sucks, but on the things that need to be addressed how well DA played is #5. The defense is #1-#3, game management protocol is #4.

By: TheNaturalMevs

TheNaturalMevs — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:01:21 +0000

I think that Anderson was god awful. I want to see Brady Quinn.

By: RockKing

RockKing — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:48:28 +0000

I get what you guys are saying about DA, but I don’t think his hands are totally clean in this loss. In the second half, his passes were nowhere near the WR’s hands. DA completed less than 50% of his passes. 2 of his 3 TD passes were the result of field position created by defense and special teams. He played a bad game. It happens.

But like you both said, this loss falls on the heads of the defense and Crennel. Certainly not DA, although he did little outside of the first possession to help the team win.

By: disappointmentzone

disappointmentzone — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:41:00 +0000

The offense didn’t exist in the second half and they still should have won — which is a testament to how well the offense played in the first half. This loss rests with the defense and head coach.

There’s no point in ripping Anderson. The defense he faced today was incredible, not only today but in general. He had a less-than-impressive second half, but my goodness, he still doesn’t have a full season under his belt. At Pittsburgh, tough defense, sloppy conditions = hard to do anything.

So many of the people who are quick to rip Anderson right now are the same people who were slow to warm to the idea that he could be a good quarterback in the first place. They’re shitting on him both ways. It’s annoying.

By: irreverend fox

irreverend fox — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:30:10 +0000

this is 80% the defense’s fault…they shouldn’t get a paycheck this week. it is 20% Romeo’s fault (and as the official clergy member here I verify the evil spirit that transferred from Tressel to Crennel last night) with the time out debacle…

listening to callers on 1100 and 850 I am shocked at how some are saying Derek had a bad game. the dude did bug out in the second half…but overall…come on…he threw for 3 TD’s…it’s like if he doesn’t throw for 4 or 5 TD’s he “struggled”…whatever. if the defense can hold teams to say, oh, you know…less than 28 ppg…we’d end up 11-5 for the year…