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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://disappointmentzone.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/would-corey-maggette-help/#comment-1481</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, DZ, the only way you can judge a GM is by saying what he should or could have done compared to what he did do.  Hughes was flat out the best player at the #2 spot who was a) willing to come here b) not a restricted free agent.  You could critique Ferry by saying he paid LH too much, but it&#039;s doubtful Hughes would have taken less, because he was coming off a great year and Washington could have given him more.  Perhaps Ferry should have a) signed a few slightly inferior players for less money, essentially spreading out the risk or b) not used all of the cap money and saved it for another year when a better player might have become available?  Neither of these options was really feasible at the time.  With Lebron on the clock, so to speak (this was pre-extension, remember), Ferry was under enormous pressure to sign the best backcourt player he could get.  That, barring a sign and trade for Johnson, was exactly what he did.

The same holds true for the Damon Jones signing.  This was regarded as a bad sign last year, but what were Ferry&#039;s options?  All the players the Cavs could have signed turned out to be worse than DJ and/or got ridiculous money for their skill set (Jaric, Jasikevicious, Watson, etc.).  As it turns out, Jones earned his $3 mil. with one shot versus the Wizards.  And, he&#039;s turned in a decent season this year thus far.

If you want to criticize Ferry, I think the Ilgauskas and Marshall signings were far more suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, DZ, the only way you can judge a GM is by saying what he should or could have done compared to what he did do.  Hughes was flat out the best player at the #2 spot who was a) willing to come here b) not a restricted free agent.  You could critique Ferry by saying he paid LH too much, but it&#8217;s doubtful Hughes would have taken less, because he was coming off a great year and Washington could have given him more.  Perhaps Ferry should have a) signed a few slightly inferior players for less money, essentially spreading out the risk or b) not used all of the cap money and saved it for another year when a better player might have become available?  Neither of these options was really feasible at the time.  With Lebron on the clock, so to speak (this was pre-extension, remember), Ferry was under enormous pressure to sign the best backcourt player he could get.  That, barring a sign and trade for Johnson, was exactly what he did.</p>
<p>The same holds true for the Damon Jones signing.  This was regarded as a bad sign last year, but what were Ferry&#8217;s options?  All the players the Cavs could have signed turned out to be worse than DJ and/or got ridiculous money for their skill set (Jaric, Jasikevicious, Watson, etc.).  As it turns out, Jones earned his $3 mil. with one shot versus the Wizards.  And, he&#8217;s turned in a decent season this year thus far.</p>
<p>If you want to criticize Ferry, I think the Ilgauskas and Marshall signings were far more suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: disappointmentzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>disappointmentzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair points, Ben. But I still think Ferry has done a poor job thus far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair points, Ben. But I still think Ferry has done a poor job thus far.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re:Ferry.. I really have no problem... yet.  He was saddled with Snow when he arrived and Hughes was really the only signing he could make at shooting guard.  Redd wasn&#039;t coming here. Neither was Ray Allen.

So that leaves Joe Johnson and Larry Hughes.  Obviously, I&#039;d rather have Johnson.  But Phoenix was supposed to match and the only reason they didn&#039;t was because the Hawks gave up some number 1s and Boris Diaw.  The Suns would have no reason to make a deal with the Cavs; they&#039;d keep Johnson.  So then the Cavs lose out on JJ and  by that time Hughes has signed elsewhere. 

And we get to watch a back court of Eric Snow and Ira Newble.  

As for Hughes... he&#039;s not a good jump shooter.  He just isn&#039;t.  It&#039;s more pronounced right now because he shares the backcourt with Snow.  You could hide one of them if the other could drain open jumpers; but they don&#039;t.  

Brown should really limit Larry&#039;s minutes to about 35-38 a game (and LeBron&#039;s from 38-40) just to keep the wear and tear off him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:Ferry.. I really have no problem&#8230; yet.  He was saddled with Snow when he arrived and Hughes was really the only signing he could make at shooting guard.  Redd wasn&#8217;t coming here. Neither was Ray Allen.</p>
<p>So that leaves Joe Johnson and Larry Hughes.  Obviously, I&#8217;d rather have Johnson.  But Phoenix was supposed to match and the only reason they didn&#8217;t was because the Hawks gave up some number 1s and Boris Diaw.  The Suns would have no reason to make a deal with the Cavs; they&#8217;d keep Johnson.  So then the Cavs lose out on JJ and  by that time Hughes has signed elsewhere. </p>
<p>And we get to watch a back court of Eric Snow and Ira Newble.  </p>
<p>As for Hughes&#8230; he&#8217;s not a good jump shooter.  He just isn&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s more pronounced right now because he shares the backcourt with Snow.  You could hide one of them if the other could drain open jumpers; but they don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Brown should really limit Larry&#8217;s minutes to about 35-38 a game (and LeBron&#8217;s from 38-40) just to keep the wear and tear off him.</p>
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		<title>By: disappointmentzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>disappointmentzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inconsistent shooting from your shooting guard is a problem. But it&#039;s more than that: he&#039;s not inconsistent-- he&#039;s consistently poor from the outside. 

Trying on defense is nice, being a good defender is better. But his defense isn&#039;t that great and as a defensive compliment to LBJ he&#039;s not very effective. 

You are spot-on with some of the pluses--I think Hughes seems like an upstanding citizen. He&#039;s been through a lot and he&#039;s handled himself admirably. But for every tangential plus (doesn&#039;t complain, seems tough) I can think of an immediate minus (in terms of on-the-court productivity).

Larry Hughes is not a terrible basketball player. Of the entire global population, he&#039;s easily in the top 1%. But he&#039;s paid a TON of money and for the amount of money he&#039;s paid he&#039;s not good. If he were paid 5mil a season I&#039;d feel differently. But he&#039;s being paid 10+mil a season. 

Perhaps I need to start picking on Danny Ferry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inconsistent shooting from your shooting guard is a problem. But it&#8217;s more than that: he&#8217;s not inconsistent&#8211; he&#8217;s consistently poor from the outside. </p>
<p>Trying on defense is nice, being a good defender is better. But his defense isn&#8217;t that great and as a defensive compliment to LBJ he&#8217;s not very effective. </p>
<p>You are spot-on with some of the pluses&#8211;I think Hughes seems like an upstanding citizen. He&#8217;s been through a lot and he&#8217;s handled himself admirably. But for every tangential plus (doesn&#8217;t complain, seems tough) I can think of an immediate minus (in terms of on-the-court productivity).</p>
<p>Larry Hughes is not a terrible basketball player. Of the entire global population, he&#8217;s easily in the top 1%. But he&#8217;s paid a TON of money and for the amount of money he&#8217;s paid he&#8217;s not good. If he were paid 5mil a season I&#8217;d feel differently. But he&#8217;s being paid 10+mil a season. </p>
<p>Perhaps I need to start picking on Danny Ferry.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone seems to hate Hughes. I don&#039;t really understand why. I&#039;ve tried to weigh the positives and negatives.

Minuses (what everyone notices):

*Injury-prone

*Inconsistent shooter

Plusses (what no one seems to give him credit for):

*Actually tries on defense, and is a reasonably good defender. Not even LeBron can claim that all the time.

*Plays well with LeBron, which can&#039;t be undervalued in a league full of huge egos and locker-room cancers.

*Rarely complains.

*Doesn&#039;t get into trouble off the court.

*Plays balls-to-the-wall, which causes a lot of his injuries.

*Seems to be pretty tough, considering all the adversity that&#039;s been thrown his way in the past year.

The verdict: Hughes isn&#039;t Pippen to LeBron&#039;s Jordan. But he&#039;s a good player. The fans might want him gone for various reasons. But be careful what you wish for. The next guy might not fit in as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems to hate Hughes. I don&#8217;t really understand why. I&#8217;ve tried to weigh the positives and negatives.</p>
<p>Minuses (what everyone notices):</p>
<p>*Injury-prone</p>
<p>*Inconsistent shooter</p>
<p>Plusses (what no one seems to give him credit for):</p>
<p>*Actually tries on defense, and is a reasonably good defender. Not even LeBron can claim that all the time.</p>
<p>*Plays well with LeBron, which can&#8217;t be undervalued in a league full of huge egos and locker-room cancers.</p>
<p>*Rarely complains.</p>
<p>*Doesn&#8217;t get into trouble off the court.</p>
<p>*Plays balls-to-the-wall, which causes a lot of his injuries.</p>
<p>*Seems to be pretty tough, considering all the adversity that&#8217;s been thrown his way in the past year.</p>
<p>The verdict: Hughes isn&#8217;t Pippen to LeBron&#8217;s Jordan. But he&#8217;s a good player. The fans might want him gone for various reasons. But be careful what you wish for. The next guy might not fit in as well.</p>
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		<title>By: disappointmentzone</title>
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		<dc:creator>disappointmentzone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Cavs could get Maggette by giving up Hughes that would help. Neither are particularly good shooters, but Maggette is a more capable scorer. 

That said, you are right that Maggette is not ideal. And I still don&#039;t think the Cavs have much of a chance of landing him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Cavs could get Maggette by giving up Hughes that would help. Neither are particularly good shooters, but Maggette is a more capable scorer. </p>
<p>That said, you are right that Maggette is not ideal. And I still don&#8217;t think the Cavs have much of a chance of landing him.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggette would be an improvement over Hughes but that&#039;s really all I can say about him.  

If the Cavs are going to make a trade for a guard,it&#039;s imperative that he is a strong-very strong outside shooter.  He doesn&#039;t have to be great at getting his own shot or posting up or particularly athletic.  

If the guys available are guys like Maggette and Early Watson, I&#039;ll pass.  Those are minor upgrades over Snow and Hughes (though upgrades nonetheless).  Sure they&#039;re better, but they still aren&#039;t lights out shooters.  With LeBron and Z, the rest of the guys aren&#039;t going to get a lot of plays run, so they need to make their points off the opportunities Z and &#039;Bron give &#039;em.  If your a PF, that means doing the dirty work (the Cavs are set with Gooden and AV), if you&#039;re a guard, that means making teams pay when they double LeBron or Z.

I&#039;m not sure Maggette is that guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggette would be an improvement over Hughes but that&#8217;s really all I can say about him.  </p>
<p>If the Cavs are going to make a trade for a guard,it&#8217;s imperative that he is a strong-very strong outside shooter.  He doesn&#8217;t have to be great at getting his own shot or posting up or particularly athletic.  </p>
<p>If the guys available are guys like Maggette and Early Watson, I&#8217;ll pass.  Those are minor upgrades over Snow and Hughes (though upgrades nonetheless).  Sure they&#8217;re better, but they still aren&#8217;t lights out shooters.  With LeBron and Z, the rest of the guys aren&#8217;t going to get a lot of plays run, so they need to make their points off the opportunities Z and &#8216;Bron give &#8216;em.  If your a PF, that means doing the dirty work (the Cavs are set with Gooden and AV), if you&#8217;re a guard, that means making teams pay when they double LeBron or Z.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure Maggette is that guy.</p>
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